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Happy (slightly!) belated Birthday to Richard Pace! (Jan 12!)
Celebrating: Darkhawk #1
I remember when my friend Charles, showed up and he had Darkhawk #1 in his hands. I looked at the comic and tried to figure out if he was some combination of Iron Man, meets Falcon, meets Wolverine as I looked at the cover.
He let me read the first issue after he read it – and I was immediately on my way to my local comic store to pick up my copy.
Darkhawk #1 had felt like I was just introduced to the next “Spider-Man.” He was that local hero who wasn’t experienced at what he was doing and just trying to make the best of it. He found himself involved in a number of things – but, on top of that, there was some wonderful character moments from other characters (such as his parents). They were not just show casing this hero – they were developing the very world Chris Powell found himself in.
I ended up collecting Darkhawk faithfully from that day forward, and I am so glad my friend showed me that first issue and let me read it. To this day, I am always excited if there’s a Darkhawk story – and while Dan Abnett & Andy Lanning would change some of his background (which some may or may not have agreed with) – to me, they really opened the door for Darkhawk to be so much more and far more “usable” in the Marvel Universe. Sadly, not much was done following their story.
Want to learn more about Darkhawk?
- His original series ran 50 issues with 4 annuals, and they did a “Issue 51” a few years back. Find out more by visiting Darkhawk Volume 1 on my page.
- Darkhawk was also involved in War of Kings which is on my site.
- He also had issues centered on Infinity Countdown also on my site.
- Chris’ story would seemingly wrap up in the Heart of the Hawk also on my site.
A new Darkhawk has emerged, as a new character, which I’ve read and enjoyed (but it definitely felt very different than the original). I never put it on the site because that character never had any connection to The New Warriors (never a member of the team, or a guest) – but because of his connection to the original Darkhawk, it may end up here one day…
- Tawmis
Edit – Well, since Darkhawk was on the mind I went ahead and added the 5 issues from the 2021 series, featuring Connor Young.
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Wishing all of you the best of days, and most joyous of times; not just today, but everyday going forward. Much love to all.
How the New Warriors might have been the Young Avengers. (Continued!)
So back, in August of 2020, I posted a snipbit about how the New Warriors were almost known as the Young Avengers. You can read about it over here. Now, there’d been a proposal scan of all the pages and everything – but that was on Tom Brevoort’s old Tumblr or whatever – and the links to the images were long dead. Even through archive searches.
Well, Corey (of the awesome New Warriors Continuity Conundrum – please check out his site! He’s done an amazing amount of work chronicling the New Warriors appearances!) let me know that Tom Brevoort had posted the proposals on his new wesbite! (That link will open a new window to his website!) Now, normally I’d be good with that – just linking his site – but I am so paranoid now, after it was lost on the tumblr site he ran – that I have also uploaded it here, down below:
Night Thrasher Cosplayer (Defmas Jonathan)
New Warriors Classic Omnibus Vol. 2 Update
Corey did such a great write up, I am just going to direct you over there.
Namorita #1
When Corey, who runs the New Warriors Continuity Conundrum (please take a moment to check out his site and the incredible amount of work he’s done there – and also, take a moment to follow him on Twitter as NewWarriorsTalk) – where was I? Oh, yes – when he’d first made me aware of this Namorita #1, we were all in shock. It’d been released in 1993, and here we were in 2018 (at the time) having just caught wind of it? I’d been running the New Warriors website since around 1994 (see the About for more!) back on Geocities (and check out some of those atrocious banners I made back in the day!) – and during that time, I’d created an eGroup (which then got bought out by Yahoo Groups, and folded completely a few years back) – and that eGroup? It was extremely active. Everyone was always talking and buzzing – so the fact that none of us had heard of this elusive Namorita #1 clearly said something about it’s rarity – and when Corey made me aware and we’d done some digging – we saw why. The Miami-Dade Police had partnered with ARISE Foundation and created a very limited run that was, to my understanding, just for a specific school district in Florida.
It was really cool that Fabian also got involved in our quest, back in 2018 to try and locate a copy of the issue. Still, our efforts to find out more about the issue were leading to dead ends; until we found a very rough copy (almost impossible to read in some parts) of a very low resolution scans of the issue – but at least, we were able to piece together an idea of what the story was about. Fast forward to 2022, I finally set up an alert on ebay to email me anytime “Namorita” appeared on eBay – now, this resulted in emails with selling an issue of New Warriors, or Namor, Marvel Universe Handbook, etc., but – several times – Namorita #1 actually appeared – and a few times, I simply did not have the money to go for it. The one time I did, I got e-snipped a millisecond before it was over.
Well, the stars finally aligned; it so happens, at work, you can accrue “points” given to you by other teams (for helping on projects, going above and beyond, etc.,) and I had amassed 10,000 points which – rather than purchasing prizes and goods, I cashed in for $1,000 credit card. And while my plan was to use it for registering my car, paying for smog, and potentially getting a new car battery – it turned out, I passed smog on my car first try, didn’t need a new car battery, so this left some extra space – and a Namorita #1 appears. With a Buy It Now option. And I pulled the trigger (for under $200, which the one for MyComicShop is going for $285!). I still couldn’t believe it – when I said I got it – and that it was on it’s way – I expected something to go wrong – or when I got it it was gonna be a hoax – like a scan of it (because the seller had no ideas of the book – just images from the aforementioned bad scan I’d eventually gotten a hold of).
Well, as you can imagine from the image in the upper left – I finally did indeed get my copy of Namorita #1 – it came just a few days after winning the bid. I can barely believe it. Admittedly, I have wanted this since discovering it – because those who have known me from the New Warriors eGroup and into the New Warriors forum (that used to be on this site), and even into the newest New Warriors Facebook Group Page I created – I’ve made no secret of my “first comic book crush” being Namorita and have had an ongoing (unhealthy?) obsession with the character! But – winning this wasn’t just about me. What my (very near future) plan is to scan the issue – and because of it’s rarity – make it available for reading on the site. I am just working on the details of how I want to do that – because I’d like folks who were interested in reading this be able to do so. So keep an eye out – and maybe join the aforementioned New Warriors Facebook group, because that’s where I will probably announce how/when it’s all done.
Corey of New Warriors Continuity Conundrum spotted this.
Tom Brevoort on the New Warriors – collected here for historical purposes.
This was the last issue of the original run of NEW WARRIORS, #75, which dropped on July 31, 1996. NEW WARRIORS was a series that succeeded despite itself. I can recall that, when I was an intern, one of the offices in which I worked has the spread of the characters posted on a dart board. When introduced by Tom DeFalco and Ron Frenz, they were seen as goofy and of another era. Nobody expected very much from them. But the combination of a young and passionate writer in Fabian Nicieza and the developing but very classic lines of Mark Bagley (balanced by the traditional Marvel sensibilities of editor Danny Fingeroth) turned it into a hit, and one of the best Marvel titles of the period, at least for its first couple of years. Eventually, though, Bagley left to draw AMAZING SPIDER-MAN regularly, the title changed editorial hands, and a proposed line expansion that saw NIGHT THRASHER and NOVA get their own series, with a second NEW WARRIORS book lanned, turned out to be optimistic. The market began to contract, and suddenly there wasn’t enough air for additional NEW WARRIORS projects. Frustrated by a lack of support from Marvel, Fabian decided to leave the series with issue #53. And that’s just about where I come in.
I was handed editorial command of the NEW WARRIORS titles as part of the MARVELUTION reorganization that saw the Editor in Chief job divided into five independent franchises. Due to their connection with Fingeroth and the fact that the series focused on younger heroes, NEW WARRIORS ended up as part of the Spider-Man family of books—despite the fact that it had no overt connection to the wall-crawler. And so it was simple to give the three titles over to me, as the other folks within the unit would be concentrating more heavily on Spidey matters. This was to my liking, as I had really enjoyed NEW WARRIORS—though my momentary elation evaporated somewhat when I realized that Fabian was departing. (I put out his final issue, #53). Still being young and new to the ways of editing comics (I had mostly been focused on trading cards and other special projects in the prior years) I wound up doing an open call for NEW WARRIORS pitches. I got a bunch of them, most of which were not very good. (One of those pitches was from Warren Ellis, whose write-up included formative versions of some of the ideas that he’d later use in other series, such as a prototypic Jenny Sparks. It would have been a very different book had Warren taken it over at this point, but I do wonder if his presence would have been enough to keep it going.) In the end, the best pitch by far was from Evan Skolnick, who had been Fabian’s assistant editor. But this presented me with a problem. Evan was a friend of mine, going back to by internship days. I’d always hated the sort of nepotistic approach that saw Marvel editors hiring other Marvel editors to write their books, rather than talent from outside, so I was very self-conscious about putting Evan in the chair. At the end of the day, though, after a conversation with my boss Bob Budiansky about this subject, I bit the bullet and went ahead. One of the things that drew me to Evan’s pitch was that he wasn’t trying to reinvent the wheel. Most of the other folks who had pitched for NEW WARRIORS seemed as though they’d never read it, and attempted to turn it into something else. But Evan, it seemed, just wanted to do NEW WARRIORS.
I also got twice lucky in that, when I came aboard, NEW WARRIORS had just onboarded a new regular artist who I didn’t feel was a good match for the material. He also had strong ideas about the direction of the series—he and Fabian had been simpatico—and he wasn’t in synch with Evan at all, which led to some difficulties on that first issue, #54. It’s not all that it could have been, especially for a new creative team launch, as people were pulling in different directions. Needing a fill-in art job almost immediately to get the woefully-behind-schedule series back on track, I hired Patrick (today Patch) Zircher off of some GREEN HORNET samples he had sent to Marvel’s slush pile. Zircher was good and he was hungry, and so when the other artist decided it was best that he move on to other assignments (which kept me from having to have a very awkward conversation with him) Zircher was able to step into the breech directly. He wound up doing the entirety of the rest of the run, including two oversized issues along the way.
Bad luck and inexperience on my part caused some difficulties early on, but especially with the inclusion of the series as part of the running Spider-Man plotlines, we were able to keep it healthy and running. That involvement wasn’t to the liking of most Spider-Man fans (and personally, I didn’t really love it all the time either. For example, there was one point at which I was told to bring in Kaine, the villainous clone of Peter Parker, as a sort of Cable mentor-figure for the group.) But it was a necessary step if the series was going to make it. Ultimately, though, after MARVELUTION came MARVELCUTION a year later, in which the five editor in chief system was discarded and 40% of the staff (including my boss Bob Budiansky) were laid off. In the aftermath, newly-minted EIC Bob Harras pruned back the line to a level that could be dealt with by the reduced staff, and he chose to cancel NEW WARRIORS. The book was still profitable, but he had no particular connection to it or love for it, and so it was easier for him to just shut it down and move on. It was a bitter pill, but the company had bigger problems, and so I moved on. Bob did louse me up on NEW WARRIORS one more time a few years later. Kurt Busiek and George Perez and I had included Justice and Firestar in our AVENGERS line-up during the HEROES RETURN launch as a pair of fresh young eyes who could observe the Avengers anew. They were only intended to stick around through issue #25, at which point my plan was to spin them off into a new NEW WARRIORS relaunch using their connection to the very successful AVENGERS to give it a good launching platform. I would have treated it like another sister title, in the way THUNDERBOLTS was at that time. But shortly before this could happen, Bob greenlit editor Frank Pittarese to produce his own NEW WARRIORS project—and that scuttled my plans. Still, as one of the first titles I got to oversee, and as a book that I loved simply as a reader, I still have a soft spot for NEW WARRIORS.
Tom Brevoort on the New Warriors